Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 8, 2010. I recommend having a clean work area with good lighting and minimum distractions. Large, clear plastic bag (about 1 gal size). You should also monitor the contact of the firing pin with the rear of the barrel.“. A bar drops down when the magazine has been removed blocking the firing pin from going too far forward. The frame is marked with a Ruger eagle etched beneath the front of the cylinder window and the serial number is stamped above the trigger guard. If I recall, with rimfire in particular it has to do with where the firing pin stops, or doesn’t. Ordered a Wilson spring kit (10, 12 pound hammer springs, 8 pound trigger spring, trigger and hammer shims) from Midway and instead … Actually, some if the following items are required. . The picture you see there is from a gun that was disassembled and then reassembled with a very important part missing. I thought the double action on the 617 had a heavy pull ? I have previously spoken with Tier Two about dry firing my SP101 357 and they said not to use the snap caps/blanks/dummie rounds. The steel that Ruger makes the LCR 357 magnum with is the same steel they use to make their .454 Casull caliber revolver. —- Does your SR9 fit into this recall category? Lost in Space) the SP101.22LR is a big ‘ole pussycat. You say that Gunnutmegger is wrong, but can you provide exactly why? The Ruger 77 22 Trigger Job is the best way to increase your performance and accuracy right out of the box! Subtract 0.002 inches = 0.006 and divide by 2 = 0.003 inch. Dry-firing a rimfire is never a good idea. DO NOT USE YOUR RUGER SR9 PISTOL, http://www.ruger.com/SR9Recall/index.html. [i]Yes. That said, he did so by staging the trigger; the wheelgun still “boasts” a tractor pull-style trigger pull. The lightweight hammer reduces locktime while its heavy spring guarantees positive ignition of the primer. Cock the hammer or pull the trigger half way to expose a pin hole at the bottom of the hammer strut. [/i], and this… I found significant additional benefit gained from shimming the hammer, hammer dog, trigger, and trigger plunger. The picture above is of a buckmark or ruger MKII that had its bolt assembled without the crosspin that retains the firing pin and spring….thus allowing it to act as a free floating pin that would cause damage just like really old and simple guns did long ago. When is Ruger going to come out with a 3″ or 4″ LCR? The firing pin is a cylinder that has a pointed edge that hits the cartridge. WRONG. Ralph demonstrated his prowess by shooting a one-inch group at five yards using the Ruger’s improved trigger action. Anyone who says otherwise is flat. But not too big. Improving the trigger pull involves disassembling the revolver, sanding / polishing surfaces, installing shims, and replacing factory springs with lighter springs. Spring kit installed. Board index » Main » Ruger Revolvers. The barrel is marked "Ruger SP101" and ".22 LR Cal" is stamped on the ejector shroud. UPC: 736676057658; MPN: 5765; GrabAGun.com Compare prices for this product 415 . Dry firing these guns will NOT cause damage. It isn’t just the firing pin at risk, it is the edge of the chamber where the pin strikes that can be damaged. I am not responsible if you break something or injure someone. [Video screwed the pooch.] Subtract 0.002 inches from the total gap. I’d suggested always getting advice from Tier Two. 12 years ago when I purchased my GP-100 one of the first things I bought was an aftermarket spring kit with lighter springs and they made a HUGE difference to me. Although it will significantly increase the amount of time to complete a trigger job, I recommend that you reassemble and test the revolver after sanding and polishing each part. I flipped flopped between the Ruger SP101 .22LR and the Smith & Wesson 617. Others are helpful or optional: Hammer shims and trigger shims will center the hammer and trigger in the frame and prevent dragging. Started out with reasonable trigger; not too stiff but smooth. The Ruger SP-101 is a great revolver, but the factory double action trigger pull can be heavy and a bit rough. The manual says that dry fire is okay for all SP101 models, so who knows? Then dry fired it. I picked up a new SP101 .357 3" snubbie this year, and I really like the gun. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Contributing Member TomJ Contributing Member. The Ruger SP-101 is a great revolver, but the factory double action trigger pull can be heavy and a bit rough. “Point taken: the Ruger’s accuracy is there. More modern design has a firing pin that is retained by a stop, pin, etc that prevents this type of damage. To drill a cleaner hole you should place some wood under the shim. Mine not so much. Trigger job on SP101 . The SP101 is a small frame and all-steel-construction carry revolver, with a five-shot (.38 Special, .357 Magnum, and 9×19mm Parabellum), six-shot (.327 Federal Magnum and .32 H&R Magnum), or eight-shot cylinder. Ruger Revolvers. With the revolver fully assembled, use a feeler gauge to measure the gap between each side of the hammer or trigger and the frame. Real conversation on the world's premier free speech platform. I’m still looking around for more 617 reviews. You may refer to the following schematic through the trigger job process. Then this Ruger came up. But this Ruger looks to last. Note the orientation of the hammer strut so you don't put it in backward during reassembly. That's supposed to smooth out the trigger. I recommend inserting the shim between the parts and using a feeler gauge to push the shim into place, then use a paper clip to align all the holes so the pivot pin can be inserted. The Mark III has a firing pin stop that prevents the firing pin from contacting the rear of the barrel and damaging the edge of the chamber. However, when you’re able to convince or confuse them with either too technical a question or a deeper response to their answer you then get transfered to someone that knows their firearms (call them Tier Two). Seemed a little smoother. Keep doing it until you don’t knock the brass off when you pull the trigger, and then do it some more. Well, Ralph’s. I know the drill. Any significant changes to these parts can make the trigger pull worse or render the revolver useless. Self-install a 10 or 11-pound Wolff spring kit, or take it to a gunsmith? It just has lots of creep and overtravel, so rounds consistently hit below and to the left of point of aim. If you are going to dry fire the pistol extensively, the stop pin and firing pin will eventually wear and contact could occur, and we recommend replacing both the firing pin and the firing pin stop from time to time. A common result of this action is the pin not impacting the cartridge enough to ignite it. Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:52 pm . Dry firing both of them only made the trigger pulls sweeter. I have dry fired my SP101 357 about 300 times now and while the trigger is still heavy it has become much smoother and easier to pull. Order Form. × 5. Of the three you mention, only the SP101 is a SA/DA revolver. out. Same goes for the SP-101 I bought a few years later. Add the gaps on each side to calculate the total gap. Ruger SP-101 Complete Trigger Job (Read 2073 times) mrgaf. When sanding, your goal is to smooth the rough spots while removing as little metal as possible. SEE Ruger Sp101 Trigger Job Guide And Bolt Stop Ebay IN BEST PRICES NOW. Action job- 2 1/2# SA pull, 8# DA pull smooth and no creep. Do not sand the forcing cone, cylinder face, cylinder notches, cylinder crane (or the frame where it meets the crane) or any other surface unless you're sure it will not effect the proper function of the revolver. The steel in many feeler gauges will rust easily. Please feel free to email me at: kevin@kevinsworkbench.com if you have any questions or suggestions. Note. You may recall my initial kvetch about the Ruger SP101 .22LR: the trigger was heavier than Proust and stacked more than my local Wal-Mart. I didn't like the feel so I removed them. Mine not so much. Keep in mind that Ruger’s Tier One level support are essentially customer service reps with little product knowledge. However, be sure any firearm is completely unloaded before dry firing! BTW, previously Tier One told me that it is ok to dry fire all their guns even rim fire ones without the snap caps/blanks/dummie rounds. Pascal, your steps ahead of me. If I recall all of my Ruger manuals, be it center or rimfire, all say it’s OK to dry fire. Now I am experiencing a bit of roughness on the first part of the trigger pull. The body of the cylinder is captive within the frame and hits the frame many thousands of an inch before the firing pin can hit the edge of the chamber….that would cause damage if it did, but it cant because it is physically prevented by design by doing so. Back to the SP101 .22 – a five yard group? He also has an eBay store under the seller name "Michigan Center Outdoors". Repeatedly dry firing in this mode might or will damage that pin as it strikes the bar. . On this revolver, the firing pin does not contact the edge of the chamber when dry-firing. Services & Packages available for the SP101 Centerfire Revolvers . You can also make your own shims from a feeler gauge. . It helps to have a partner. He is very sure that it is in the same range as the other SP101’s in center fire ammo which is 8-14 lbs in DA. Here are the specifications of the 8-shot SP101 .22. Kits include the various springs necessary to assure reliable function, smooth operation, consistency, and long life. All times are UTC . Thanks for following up on the SP101 22LR. Getting the shims in place while assembling the revolver can be a challenge. Share Followers 0. I guess I have run it through about 500 rounds. GP100. ALL ruger designs have captive firing pins that stop short of hitting the chamber. And so the .22 caliber revolver was in my hand for most of the next day—which made comfort breaks a bit awkward. I’m working on it though. Either that or ship the things with a pocket gunsmith. Using courser sandpaper can easily remove too much metal. Bargaining Ruger Sp101 Trigger Job Guide And Reviews Ratings For Timney Triggers Best Ruger SP101 Spring Kit to Improve Performance and should be a Priority on your Ruger SP101 Accesories List! What sets the Power Custom trigger system apart first is the Garand style safety at the front of the trigger guard. The recall problem is about the trigger. In the case of the Ruger SR9C 9mm, as I understand it, dry-firing without the magazine in the pistol will possibly cause damage, and sooner than later. This guide will walk you through the process of completing a trigger job. All Ruger revolvers can be dry fired without damage, and dry firing can be useful to familiarize the owner with the firearm. I ended up with the 617 because I could not over come the Ruger’s trigger and I am very happy with my choice more so now that I have seen this and other reviews. If youre looking . 10,066 Posts . Improving the trigger pull involves disassembling the revolver, sanding / polishing surfaces, installing shims, and replacing factory springs with lighter springs. Arguing over the level of badness is pointless, especially when you can use a snap-cap and avoid the issue. . I haven’t seen a breakdown image of this gun, but dry-firing rimfires is usually a bad idea. Read Before Ordering. Thus, my admonition that “dryfiring a rimfire is never a good idea” seems completely true. Is the manual that you are quoting for the new SP101 22LR or for an earlier printed version that came with one of the center fire SP101? Thanks for asking. It can be improved with a "trigger job". And if you make a dent there, you can affect the reliability of ignition. So the hammer should have a 0.003 inch shim on each side. .22 long rifle was made very easy and simple in the early 19th century. submitted 2 years ago by bennedictus. The Ruger SP101 is a series of double-action revolvers produced by the American company Sturm, Ruger & Co. The little pin that opens up appears to only lube the hammer pivot. Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by TomJ, Jun 28, 2019. Damage from incorrect assembly. Roger that (so to speak). Several parts in the revolver are carefully fitted at the factory. When I had asked about center fire ammo, the Tier Two tech said that there is a (I can’t recall the number) small physical difference in the size of the snap caps from live ammo and long term that can produce a problem. It would be nice to shoot a 100 rounds through each to see how they heat an dirty up. As well as the full review . Seriously? What street price is everyone seeing on these? That is not a problem with this gun, or any other current ruger rimfire design. The edges of the shim should be sanded smooth. I believe it is called a light fire strike. Well, Ralph’s. By dapribek, March 11, 2019 in General Gunsmithing. I am sure both are tack drivers but I just could not deal with the trigger. Yes. Forget to install that part and you have to swage out a dimple. There have been a number of complaints on forum sites about this problem though it seems that some owners are sometimes or often responsible for it. I did have a trigger job done to the 22 SP101, and that greatly improved the trigger, but the accuracy remained poor, which is one reason why I ended up selling it earlier this year. Be sure to apply a coating of oil or grease to the shim. http://personal.swayzee.com/jayb/dryfiredamage.jpg. and join one of thousands of communities. This is a solid, heirloom-quality gun. From Ruger: Have several small cups, bags, etc. Wilson Combat Custom-Tune Spring Kit Ruger SP101. Of course it’s always a temptation to just buy another gun, but it may be a better idea to fix the one I have. Point take: the Ruger’s accuracy is there. Cut off the end of the gauge and drill or punch a hole slightly larger than the pin that'll go in the hole. Their Ruger 10/22 Trigger Module, self-contained drop-in module gives an ultra-crisp single stage trigger with a 2 ¼ pound pull. All Ruger rifles can be dry fired without damage, and dry firing can be useful to familiarize the owner with the firearm. Single six, bearcat, MK line, 10/22 line, sp, 77/22, 99/22, etc, etc. I swear. Ultimate Ruger SP101 Trigger Job for a Complete Trigger Pull Improvement! FYI, the rimfire models use the same transfer bar system as the centerfire models, so what’s sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander. Bearcat. I spoke again with Ruger technical support today. Ruger offers the same set-up on the.38/.357 SP101, so you can use the smaller caliber wheelgun as a cheap-firing trainer for your other $754 Ruger revolver. ALL of them. They may or not charge for it. By far, the best trigger I have every used is in the S&W K-22 Masterpiece Competition. Lance produces all his shims by hand. [i]Yes. Replacement springs improve trigger function for better shooting performance. 6. An improper trigger job can render a revolver useless or result in a dangerous malfunction. If you know what I mean. Moderators: flatgate, Moderators. 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